Archive for the ‘cults’ Category

Looking for the text’s ‘deeper meaning’?

February 25, 2011

…before I was a Christian, I was in a cult whose answer to every uncongenial passage was, “We have to look for the deeper meaning.” Funny how the “deeper meaning” was always the precise opposite of what the passage said, and exactly in harmony with what our cult believed.

Dan Phillips

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If anything is contrary to Scripture, it is wrong. If anything is the same as Scripture, it is not needed. If anything goes beyond Scripture, it has no authority.

September 10, 2010

 

If anything is contrary to Scripture, it is wrong. If anything is the same as Scripture, it is not needed. If anything goes beyond Scripture, it has no authority.

Curtis Crenshaw, Word-faith critic

Now this heresy of yours does not receive certain Scriptures; and whichever of them it does receive, it perverts by means of additions and diminutions, for the accomplishment of it own purpose; and such as it does receive, it receives not in their entirety

November 25, 2009

Now this heresy of yours does not receive certain Scriptures; and whichever of them it does receive, it perverts by means of additions and diminutions, for the accomplishment of it own purpose; and such as it does receive, it receives not in their entirety; but even when it does receive any up to a certain point as entire, it nevertheless perverts even these by the contrivance of diverse interpretations. Truth is just as much opposed by an adulteration of its meaning as it is by a corruption of its text. Their vain presumptions must needs refuse to acknowledge the (writings) whereby they are refuted. They rely on those which they have falsely put together, and which they have selected, because of their ambiguity. Though most skilled in the Scriptures, you will make no progress, when everything which you maintain is denied on the other side, and whatever you deny is (by them) maintained. As for yourself, indeed, you will lose nothing but your breath, and gain nothing but vexation from their blasphemy.

Tertullian – The Prescription against Heretics, Chapter 17. Heretics, in Fact, Do Not Use, But Only Abuse, Scripture. No Common Ground Between Them and You.

If you have had anything to do with heretics, you will sympathise entirely with Tertullian here. There is nothing new under the sun.

the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible

October 3, 2009

for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible.

Joseph Smith, Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12

Which is equivalent to saying in a  court trial:  “The witnesses contradict one another, therefore there is no true witness among them.  And what’s more – believe me” (even though they claim to be eye-witnesses and I wasn’t at the scene). It’s what’s known as a non sequitur.

more Mormon quotes

Self-Contradictions of Mormonism

August 26, 2009

Now hear it, 0 inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the Garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days, about whom holy men have written and spoken-He is our father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do.

Brigham Young, 2nd Church President (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 50).

But Bruce McConkie, Mormon Apostle said (1st June, 1980)

There are those who believe or say they believe that Adam is our father and our god, that he is the father of our spirits and our bodies, and that he is the one we worship.

The devil keeps this heresy alive as a means of obtaining converts to cultism. It is contrary to the whole plan of salvation set forth in the scriptures, and anyone who has read the Book of Moses, and anyone who has received the temple endowment, has no excuse whatever for being led astray by it. Those who are so ensnared reject the living prophet and close their ears to the apostles of their day.

In other words, Mormon doctrine is changing and contradicts itself. Rather like the New light teaching of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, false prophets have to exaplin away previous revelations that contradict what the organisation is curently propogating. The long-term member must engage in what Orwell called double-think to maintain belief in an infallible prophetic office – whether Mormon or Watchtower

False Prophecy

August 19, 2009
 

 From now until the year 2000, a series of violent phenomena filled with fear that are too difficult to describe will occur. Japan will turn into wasteland as a result of a nuclear weapons attack. This will occur from 1996 through January 1998. An alliance centering on the United States will attack Japan. In large cities in Japan, only one-tenth of the population will be able to survive. Nine out of ten people will die.

Shoko Asahara (Supreme Master), Aum Shinrikyo, 1993

 

Led by its increasingly power-crazed and deluded guru – Asahara now claimed to be Christ and the Lord Buddha – Aum span out of control. Followers were starved, doped with LSD and forced to undergo bizarre initiations. The cult’s enemies were murdered and incinerated in purpose-built microwave ovens. The madness culminated in a rush-hour assault on Tokyo’s subway, an attempt to halt a police investigation into the cult.

Guardian

Danger of false prophets

August 19, 2009

David Koresh planned for his heavily armed cult to attack and kill citizens in Waco, Tex., according to the Government report on the failed raid by Treasury agents on the sect’s compound.

“You can’t die for God if you can’t kill for God,” Mr. Koresh told his followers, said the Treasury Department’s review of the botched raid on Feb. 28.

New York Times

Some former members of Koresh’s group alleged that he practiced polygamy with underage brides, physically abused children, and stockpiled illegal weapons

This source and more on cults

The high cost of false prophecy

August 19, 2009

The 914 people who died in the Jonestown suicide included 200 babies and children who had the Kool-Aid/Valium/Cyanide mixture squitred down their throats. Many adults had it poured down their throats, some willingly, some not. Others who tried to hide were tracked down and shot by armed guards. Some of the 1,110 people in Jonestown escaped into the Guyana jungle. Jones himself died from a single gunshot wound to the head. All this after Congressman Leo ryan, 3 media representatives and a Jonestown defector had been shot down on the airport strip at Port Kaituma. The Congressman…was leaving the very day of the mass suicide, 8th November, 1978

Jack Sargeant, ed., Death Cults, Virgin Books, 2002, pp.117-118

The Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments

August 5, 2009

This cult was started in the middle 1990’s by a woman name Cledonia Mwerinde, she was a former prostitute. She was assisted by a former Roman Catholic priest name Joseph Kibweteere.

At one point the group operated a school which housed almost 300 students. The school was closed in 1998 when the government investigated it and determined it did not meet adequate standards for food and housing.

Their Beliefs—

The members of the movement were commanded to communicate only by gestures. They were permitted to vocalize only when singing or preying.

It is currently believed that the mass deaths were a result of Kibweteere’s prediction that the world would end on December 31, 1999. This date was revised to 12-31-00 after the earlier date passed without event.

Kibweteere’s beliefs in the end of the world was allegedly based on a conversation he claims to have had with both Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary. Mary is suppose to have told him that the world was going to be destroyed because its people were not adhering to the Ten Commandments.

The End Results?—

The death count linked to a Christian doomsday sect climbed ever higher Wednesday—to nearly 700 — in what officials say is one of the largest mass murders in recent history. Authorities initially called the conflagration a mass suicide. But within days, investigators discovered six strangled, mutilated corpses in a pit latrine on the compound, triggering a murder investigation.

Days after the fire, 153 more decomposing bodies were found buried in a Buhunga village compound belonging to the sect. Then, on Friday, police discovered the first Rugazi mass grave when they came to inspect Kataribabo’s compound. Investigators found the bodies in the house after Kataribabo’s nephew, Bart Bainomukama, told them his uncle had said he was digging a pit for a refrigerator. A hole driven through the floor quickly revealed a human leg. That led to the discovery of the 81 additional corpses.

source

She obviously did not read the command: Thou shalt not kill.