Posts Tagged ‘false prophets’

Antichrists deny Joseph Smith says Brigham Young

September 11, 2009

I will now give my scripture: `Whosoever confesseth that Joseph Smith was sent of God to reveal the holy Gospel to the children of men, and lay the foundation for gathering Israel, and building up the kingdom of God on the earth, that spirit is of God; and every spirit that does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel and through him, is of Antichrist’

Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, p. 176

The danger of subjective religious experience

September 10, 2009
Preacher says God wanted him to hijack Mexican jet

By MARK STEVENSON (AP) 10/9/9

MEXICO CITY — It was 1 p.m. when the control tower at the Mexico City airport got the first word of a bizarre drama that would play out over the next two hours: The pilot of Aeromexico Flight 576 radioed that a man aboard claimed to have a bomb and wanted to talk with President Felipe Calderon.

Jose Flores, a 44-year-old Bolivian preacher who lives in Mexico, had gotten the word from God that he had to warn Mexicans of an impending disaster — an earthquake “like none there has ever been,” he told reporters after being hustled off the plane by police without anyone being injured.

Unsuspecting passengers, including Americans and French tourists traveling from the beach resort of Cancun to Mexico City, sat not fully aware of what was happening as the pilot negotiated with Flores, bringing the plane to a smooth landing and after an hour or so of talking winning an agreement to end the standoff.

The crisis began when Flores told a flight attendant that a juice can he had was a bomb. The flight attendant notified the plane’s captain over the intercom, Public Safety Secretary Genaro Garcia Luna told reporters.

Flores kept the 103 passengers and crew on the tarmac for more than an hour, the plane sitting surrounded by heavily armed police at the end of a runway in an area designed for emergencies. The airport remained open.

Pilot Ricardo Rios told the Televisa television network that Flores requested that the Boeing 737 be flown around Mexico City seven times, but there wasn’t enough fuel to do that. The hijacker also asked that women reporters and Calderon be at the airport to talk to him, Rios said.

“He said he had tried to speak to the president for three months and since there hadn’t been an answer he decided to use these type of threats with an airline,” the pilot said.

Eventually, Flores agreed to release women and children. Minutes later, masked police stormed onto the aircraft with guns drawn and soon escorted several handcuffed men away without firing a shot.

Police later said there was only one hijacker, and the other men were briefly detained because the suspect had told a flight attendant he had three accomplices.

Flores told police his three companions were “the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.”

He said he hijacked the plane after a divine revelation. Flores told authorities Wednesday’s date — 9-9-09 — is the satanic number 666 turned upside down.

Speaking to reporters after he was detained, Flores said he took control of the aircraft with “a juice can … with some little lights I attached.”

“Christ is coming soon,” he added, smiling.

His wife, Elizabeth Melgar, told W Radio that Flores “always told me that he was looking for a way to attract the attention of the media … he always told me that he was waiting for a signal from God to do something.”

“Don’t worry if they put me in jail; (it will be) glory to God,” she quoted him as saying.

The suspect’s mother, Mary Pereyra de Flores, told PAT television in his native Bolivia that “I knew that my son had this revelation a year ago, I knew he was going to try to talk to the president of Mexico.”

She also said she knew that the 9-9-09 date had significance. “There was a revelation for that date … today there is a promise for the people of God and retribution for everything that the enemy has stolen,” she said.

Garcia Luna said Flores is a drug addict who was convicted of armed robbery in Bolivia and has lived in Mexico for 17 years. Flores described himself as a former drug user and a pastor in southern Oaxaca state who had gone to Cancun to preach.

He is also a Christian music singer who in videos posted on YouTube sings of leaving drugs and finding God. “I was in jail, I was a despicable drug addict, but Christ freed me a few years ago,” he sings along with recorded music at a crowded stadium.

Associated Press writer Devlin Barrett in Washington contributed to this report.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Islam – the mere word of Muhammed

September 1, 2009

Aquinas says Christianity is a rational belief, not Islam, because the latter expects its supernatural revelation to be accepted on the mere word of Muhammed. Whereas Jesus did not expect men to be so credulous and gave signs authenticating his claims.

Self-Contradictions of Mormonism

August 26, 2009

Now hear it, 0 inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the Garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days, about whom holy men have written and spoken-He is our father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do.

Brigham Young, 2nd Church President (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 50).

But Bruce McConkie, Mormon Apostle said (1st June, 1980)

There are those who believe or say they believe that Adam is our father and our god, that he is the father of our spirits and our bodies, and that he is the one we worship.

The devil keeps this heresy alive as a means of obtaining converts to cultism. It is contrary to the whole plan of salvation set forth in the scriptures, and anyone who has read the Book of Moses, and anyone who has received the temple endowment, has no excuse whatever for being led astray by it. Those who are so ensnared reject the living prophet and close their ears to the apostles of their day.

In other words, Mormon doctrine is changing and contradicts itself. Rather like the New light teaching of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, false prophets have to exaplin away previous revelations that contradict what the organisation is curently propogating. The long-term member must engage in what Orwell called double-think to maintain belief in an infallible prophetic office – whether Mormon or Watchtower

False Prophecy

August 19, 2009
 

 From now until the year 2000, a series of violent phenomena filled with fear that are too difficult to describe will occur. Japan will turn into wasteland as a result of a nuclear weapons attack. This will occur from 1996 through January 1998. An alliance centering on the United States will attack Japan. In large cities in Japan, only one-tenth of the population will be able to survive. Nine out of ten people will die.

Shoko Asahara (Supreme Master), Aum Shinrikyo, 1993

 

Led by its increasingly power-crazed and deluded guru – Asahara now claimed to be Christ and the Lord Buddha – Aum span out of control. Followers were starved, doped with LSD and forced to undergo bizarre initiations. The cult’s enemies were murdered and incinerated in purpose-built microwave ovens. The madness culminated in a rush-hour assault on Tokyo’s subway, an attempt to halt a police investigation into the cult.

Guardian

Danger of false prophets

August 19, 2009

David Koresh planned for his heavily armed cult to attack and kill citizens in Waco, Tex., according to the Government report on the failed raid by Treasury agents on the sect’s compound.

“You can’t die for God if you can’t kill for God,” Mr. Koresh told his followers, said the Treasury Department’s review of the botched raid on Feb. 28.

New York Times

Some former members of Koresh’s group alleged that he practiced polygamy with underage brides, physically abused children, and stockpiled illegal weapons

This source and more on cults

The high cost of false prophecy

August 19, 2009

The 914 people who died in the Jonestown suicide included 200 babies and children who had the Kool-Aid/Valium/Cyanide mixture squitred down their throats. Many adults had it poured down their throats, some willingly, some not. Others who tried to hide were tracked down and shot by armed guards. Some of the 1,110 people in Jonestown escaped into the Guyana jungle. Jones himself died from a single gunshot wound to the head. All this after Congressman Leo ryan, 3 media representatives and a Jonestown defector had been shot down on the airport strip at Port Kaituma. The Congressman…was leaving the very day of the mass suicide, 8th November, 1978

Jack Sargeant, ed., Death Cults, Virgin Books, 2002, pp.117-118

Consequences of False Doctrine

August 19, 2009

Robert deGrimston founded The Process in 1962 while practising Scientology. In October of 1967…Robert DeGrimston…wrote a book called As It Is. On the front page is this:


Christ said: Love thine enemy. Christ’s Enemy was Satan and Satan’s Enemy was Christ. Through love, enmity is destroyed. Through love, saint and sinner destroy the enmity between them. Through love, Christ and Satan have destroyed their enmity and come together for the End. Christ to judge, Satan to execute the judgment.
 

One of the major ideas that (Charles) Manson gleaned from The Process was that Jesus and Satan were one and the same and the worship of Satan was necessary in escaping the doomsday notion shared by both groups.

Both deGrimston and Manson believed they were the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.

 
in Death Cults, Jack Sargeant, Virgin Books, 2002, p.89-90

 

 

Joseph Smith, False Prophet

August 19, 2009

In (Joseph Smith’s) diary entry for 1843 we find: “I prophesy in the name of the Lord God, and let it be written, that the Son of Man shall not come in the clouds until I am 85 years of age, 48 years hense, or about 1890.” (The Revelations of Joseph Smith, p.345)

in Mormonism, A Gold-Plated Religion, Mike and Ann Thomas, Alpha, p.84

When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

Deuteronomy 18.22

Faith in a False Messiah

August 17, 2009

Speaking of the terror unleashed by Stalin including his ‘Show Trials’ Montefiore explains who was to suffer: ‘Those without blind faith (in Stalin) were to die.’

In Moscow, 200,000 people, bedazzled by propaganda, massed in Red Square, despite temperatures of -27°C (at the time of the treason trial of Grigory Pyatakov and Karl Radek in January 1937), bearing banners that read, ‘The court’s verdict is (i.e. the ‘Show Trials’) is the people’s verdict. Krushchev addressed them denouncing the ‘Judas-Trotsky’, a line that strongly implied that Stalin was the metaphorical Jesus. (We know from Yury Zhdanov that he jokingly compared himself to Jesus)

“By lifting their hands against comrade Stalin they lifted them against all the best that humanity possesses. For Stalin is hope; he is expectation; he is the beacon that guides all progressive mankind. Stalin is our banner! Stalin is our will! Stalin is our victory!” The country was swept by the ‘eotional effervescence of hatred, fear and blood-lust.

Simon Sebag montefiore, Stalin, 2003, p.187